ROMA (ITALPRESS) – “I will speak with Delmastro, but I look at the facts we now know from the press. If there was a handle, would you say that this is the worst thing you have on the Italian government? Interesting. The question says that there is an undersecretary who buys a restaurant shares with incensured members and that when he discovers that, not one of the partners, but the father of one of the partners has problems with justice sells those quotas and does it not when the news comes out in the newspapers but when he discovers it. Delmastro has been light, from here to say that he is conniving with organized crime when he is under guard for the work he does against organized crime there passes”. Thus the President of the Council, Giorgia Meloni, to “Yes or No” the special dedicated to the broadcast referendum on La7. “If there has been a manina that said: “Let’s pull out the worst thing we have on the government”, the Italians will assess and accept that it was this – he adds. If this matter were wider and there were other problems then the judiciary will do its course because, look a little, even if the Yes the magistrates will do their job, indeed they will do it better.”.
“I don’t see political contradictions, regardless of how the referendum should go. We all know that governments are usually polluted by their own majority and not by oppositions, the majority is solid and it was also in this election campaign, unlike what happened in the oppositions where there are representatives who support the Yes,” he said, moving the focus on reform and referendum. “What worries me is the message that in this nation things cannot change, that we are not able, that we must always remain identical to ourselves even if there are things that do not work. He wouldn’t pay the government, but they’d pay the citizens. I see a challenge between those who want to defend the status quo and those who want to look forward, they want a different nation for their children”.
“I have cited a number of immigration cases representing a crusade that some magistrates are doing against the government for ideological reasons, it has no sense to say that an illegal immigrant entered in Italy who is responsible for rape must be released”, this thing pays the citizens. “With the reform it changes because there is no more such a polarized and ideological judiciary.”.
“You don’t vote on Meloni, but in the end you think you’re voting on Meloni, you keep it and in the end you have not reformed the justice that doesn’t work. The Meloni can be sent home in a year when there are policies, but now we vote for a sacrosanct reform and then we throw a hare to chase so as not to look at the reality of things. But I’ve learned that citizens are much smarter than they think politically. And a reform of responsibility and meritocracy on justice,” he said.
The reform has something to do with the cases of Garlasco or the family in the woods because “there is something that does not go back to Italy if parents who grow their children in a forest see themselves questioning parental power and do not do so with those parents who send their children to steal. There is an ideological approach but also of negligence because when you make the easiest choice, that is to remove children from that family there is also a problem of negligence and introduce the principle of responsibility addresses these issues much better,” Meloni said.
“It is a compact majority of people aware of the great responsibility entrusted to their shoulders that, as far as they can have their different nuances, in the end they anticipate the national interest to that of the party, is what makes the difference in majority. The only thing that does not concern is the holding of the majority of government, I am very proud of my majority,” he concluded in the special of Mentana.
“The assumptions of efficiency are responsibility and meritocracy, how much impacts on the efficiency of justice in Italy the fact that a negligent judge quietly continues to career as happens in many cases? How much does the fact that the career of a magistrate in many cases does not depend on its merit but on the current to which it belongs? Unfortunately, we have seen magistrates condemning innocent people and never had to respond to what they do in their work. I think that no reform such as this could renew the efficiency of justice in Italy,” Meloni said at Five Minutes on Rai 1. “I think that a High Court that deals only with disciplinary of the magistrates that are not selected by the currents but through draw offers us judgments that are usually more just and more effective. I consider a non-secondary anomaly that in the current order the controller is chosen by the controlled; but in which other mechanism all this happens? Nobody. I think that by dissuading those judges from the current mechanism they are even more free to decide in conscience when they have to decide on the discipline of a colleague,” he adds.
Do you learn magistrates? “If they are the same who can give me life, remove my parental power, if seizing home and car are unprepared we have a problem, but a wider problem than this. The thesis that people who decide on the freedom of citizens are not able to decide on the transfer of a colleague I cannot support, is a surreal thesis. It’s surreal also to feel ‘but would you like to get you operated by a primary draw?’, but why when you go to the hospital elect the primary? Then the question is: do you want to be treated by a primary who has been appointed or by one who is there because he is the best?”, he stressed.
“The reality is that today the judiciary is subordinate to politics, waiting for a part of the members of the Csm to be fought between political parties and the other decided by the currents ideologized by the judiciary. These are two things that we take, therefore, away from political control. Those who defend the control of judiciary policy because they have always thought of taking advantage of it cannot tell the truth and tell us that, we who are doing a reform to free the judiciary from politics, we want to control it,” the premier claims. That of justice is “a reform that we have been talking about for decades and that no one has managed to do. So we need citizens to give us 5 minutes of their time to go and put a cross on Yes.”.
SCHLEIN “MELONI DOVEVA CHIEDERE IERI DIMISSIONI DELMASTRO”
“From yesterday Giorgia Meloni should have demanded Delmastro’s resignation and instead, addressing me, he said ‘I learned it from the newspapers’ and added ‘this should make us reflect on a certain way of doing journalism’. I believe that this should reflect rather on his way of choosing the undersecretaries to justice.” So the secretary of the Pd, Elly Schlein, also guest of the special edition of the Tg La7 “Yes or No”. “Delmastro had already been convicted for revealing secret information to use them against us in the courtroom and lied about this affair, because it seems that – even after the conviction in appeal of this convicted gentleman to be the Senese clan – from the photos that emerged today, he continued to attend that local. He founded a society with the 18-year-old daughter of a man who had already been investigated for mafia and then was convicted for mafia. Is it possible that a sub-Secretary for Justice fund companies without knowing who is founded with them?”, he wonders.
“From the first press conference that I did, as soon as this terrible reform was approved in Parliament, I said that we would not have politicized, but that I expected the government and Giorgia Meloni to do so. It went exactly like this: we had a whole battle on merit, asking for a vote against a wrong reform for citizens,” he said. “I believe that the government that has explained perfectly what its objectives are: the government thinks that those who take an extra vote in the elections should not be judged as it happens to all citizens. This is a government that thinks he can decide who the judge does and who does not, depending on whether or not he likes his decisions.”.
“A separation of functions could be strengthened, if they wanted to do so by ordinary law, for example by providing two separate contests. The problem is that this reform has another objective, that of splitting and drawing up the Higher Council of the Magistrature, which is the organ to which our constituents have entrusted a very delicate task, that of guaranteeing the independence of the judges, which, however, does not protect the judges, protect all citizens”, he reiterated. “For us the independence of the judiciary is a fundamental principle to defend,” he explains. “Today the CSM is one, it is elective and authoritative: with this reform it is split into three, drawn and therefore is weaker. And among other things with a draw that is asymmetrical, because the part that is elected today by the judges would randomly draw between 9,000 judges in Italy” while “the part that is elected today by Parliament would be drawn, but from a list voted by Parliament where there is a political majority. It is clear that politics is kept an extra word, it is clear that it will weigh more, not less, in the relationship with togati”.
“It is the first time in Republican history that a constitutional reform comes out of Parliament exactly as it entered, because the government has armored it and has not accepted to change even a comma, not only with the amendments of the oppositions, but also with amendments of Members and Senators of the majority,” Schlein added. “There has been no will for dialogue, at the time when seven articles of the Constitution were put in hand,” he recalls. “Justice can be improved, but it does not improve by putting judges under the control of the government, which is obviously the one to which it aims. This reform does not touch the problematic knots of justice in Italy, it does not make processes faster, it does not assume the staff that lacks and does not stabilize even the 12,000 precarious precarious of justice that the government risks leaving home from June”.
“We need to vote ‘no’ because it is not a reform that improves justice for citizens, does not speed up the processes, does not take those 12,000 precarious justice” but “instead it weakens the independence of the judiciary which, however, does not protect the judges, protects the citizens, especially those who alone have neither the power nor the money to overcome it. It is a reform that does not concern magistrates: it concerns citizens’ rights and concerns the protection of the quality of our democracy. Our invitation is to inform and vote by thinking about our Constitution, regardless of how you vote in political elections.”.
“The draw does not eliminate the currents of the judiciary, eliminates democratic representation: it is another thing. We remember that 77% of the magistrates do not adhere to any association, but with the draw, which is entirely random, you could get to the paradox to elect all the judges of the same area or to elect all men, with serious damage of gender equality. We wonder why the draw for a constitutional organ is not foreseen in any country in the world?”, said the secretary of the PD.
“Of course, if the yes wins, they will try to move forward also on another constitutional reform, that of the premierate, which goes in the same direction to emphasize the power more and more in the hands of those who stand in the government, at the expense of the prerogatives of Parliament and also of those of the President of the Republic, which for us do not touch. If there are times? It depends on the priorities given to the government. President Meloni’s sister said that the priorities this year would be the electoral law and the premier, not the fact that one expects a year and a half for a gastroscopy or that there are 4 million workers who do not even arrive at the end of the week”, he concluded.
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